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2023.05.24 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] General AFKArena Questions & Guide compilation
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the General Questions Megathread of /AFKArena! If you're new to the subreddit, please check out our Welcome Introduction post!If you have a small question that you want answers to or if you're afraid of making a post, this is the thread for you! Just note that before you ask a question, check if it has already been answered in this thread. This is to keep the thread as neat and tidy as possible.
Compilation of the latest AFKArena guide
Useful Links to get you started
Just started the game and feeling overwhelmed?Looking for META Team formations?
Stuck and need help clearing a particular stage?
Unsure of which hero you should be pushing their Signature Item(SI) to 30?
If you can't find a solution to your question(s) try looking here: Complied guides (Afkarena's wiki)
or looking for other Community-made tools?
Our Community trusted Guide-makers
u/Whitesushiiu/datguywind ; AFK.guide
u/Leanker ; Youtube
u/AFKArty ; Discord: Arty#9980
u/GranCarter
u/GnaXi ; Afkhelper
If you have any suggestions/feedback for this thread or other threads like this, feel free to PM me.
Thank you!
Link to previous Question threads
2023.05.24 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] Guild Advertising/Searching
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the Official Guild Advertising/Searching Megathread of /AFKArena!All Guild Advertising/Searching posts will be contained inside this Megathread!
What is this Thread for?
If you are looking for a guild or recruiting a guild member this is the right place! Let's keep this thread clean and nice. Please don't link your discord server here, if your guild has a discord server you can simply invite your new member through private message.This thread will be reposted every week. Look for the newest Guild Megathread by clicking the button on the sidebar of the subreddit.
How I do use this Thread for my Guild's Recruitment?
1. Post a Comment, you can follow this format if you're not sure what to type.- Name of Guild.
- Level of Guild.
- Joining requirements.
- What New Members can expect from your Guild (purpose and goals)..
Recruitment Example :
"xX Best Guild 420 Xx"
- 25hrs/7days a week Active guild
- Have a discord (No posting links)
- Guild level 690
- Recruiting members with 1 trillion+ Arena power only.
- Aiming to be the Numba 1 Guild in the Universe.
- Killed Gouldos in the FIRST DAY of Abyssal Expedition
2023.05.23 22:09 Highborn_Hellest I was promted by u/rabbitking21. New event comp, to blast through, easy clap.
 | submitted by Highborn_Hellest to afkarena [link] [comments] Credit goes to Zess over on Volkins discord btw. The one and only team you'll need for this event. But these need to be invested. I used a variation of this for the whole event, but couldn't do 15 3* so used this for that. Therefore should work for all. Other team that works well is the standard graveborn team with alna. Thanks for u/rabbitking21 for suggesting here, to make it a post for everybody. edit: my investments are swolise: e60 si 30, 9/9, eorin 209 0 furn, mishka e60+309, twins e30 9/9 SI 21, and finally palmer is maxed. Edit 2: by maxed i mean 309/60. |
2023.05.20 11:03 DwinuXe Temporal Rift 5 teams floor 240 (not F2P friendly but possible)
 | https://preview.redd.it/52i2inopay0b1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=359e9c80e5066d045915e28abc4877e2c18fd811 submitted by DwinuXe to afkarena [link] [comments] Team 1 most likely does not require Atalene, any variation of dim comp should work as long as rem is included (will be available soon) Team 2 avoid cc teams/teams with estrilda in front line. Solve this team first Team 3 avoid teams that have alot of summons Team 4 works against summons Team 5 virtually beats anything, always used this against bosses. Belinda possibly can work at L as I have seen people using Refer to LordBob49's fantastic guide for more details on team details and what upgrades to choose for each relic as well as variations for teams 2, 3, 4 and 5. https://www.reddit.com/afkarena/comments/1336j24/f180_rift_clear_2_awakened_only/ pet and relic for team 1 pet and relic for team 2 pet and relic for team 3 pet and relic for team 4 pet and relic for team 5 |
2023.05.17 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] General AFKArena Questions & Guide compilation
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the General Questions Megathread of /AFKArena! If you're new to the subreddit, please check out our Welcome Introduction post!If you have a small question that you want answers to or if you're afraid of making a post, this is the thread for you! Just note that before you ask a question, check if it has already been answered in this thread. This is to keep the thread as neat and tidy as possible.
Compilation of the latest AFKArena guide
Useful Links to get you started
Just started the game and feeling overwhelmed?Looking for META Team formations?
Stuck and need help clearing a particular stage?
Unsure of which hero you should be pushing their Signature Item(SI) to 30?
If you can't find a solution to your question(s) try looking here: Complied guides (Afkarena's wiki)
or looking for other Community-made tools?
Our Community trusted Guide-makers
u/Whitesushiiu/datguywind ; AFK.guide
u/Leanker ; Youtube
u/AFKArty ; Discord: Arty#9980
u/GranCarter
u/GnaXi ; Afkhelper
If you have any suggestions/feedback for this thread or other threads like this, feel free to PM me.
Thank you!
Link to previous Question threads
2023.05.17 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] Guild Advertising/Searching
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the Official Guild Advertising/Searching Megathread of /AFKArena!All Guild Advertising/Searching posts will be contained inside this Megathread!
What is this Thread for?
If you are looking for a guild or recruiting a guild member this is the right place! Let's keep this thread clean and nice. Please don't link your discord server here, if your guild has a discord server you can simply invite your new member through private message.This thread will be reposted every week. Look for the newest Guild Megathread by clicking the button on the sidebar of the subreddit.
How I do use this Thread for my Guild's Recruitment?
1. Post a Comment, you can follow this format if you're not sure what to type.- Name of Guild.
- Level of Guild.
- Joining requirements.
- What New Members can expect from your Guild (purpose and goals)..
Recruitment Example :
"xX Best Guild 420 Xx"
- 25hrs/7days a week Active guild
- Have a discord (No posting links)
- Guild level 690
- Recruiting members with 1 trillion+ Arena power only.
- Aiming to be the Numba 1 Guild in the Universe.
- Killed Gouldos in the FIRST DAY of Abyssal Expedition
2023.05.17 02:05 OnionSkinAFK Onion's Unofficial AFK Arena Popularity Poll Feedback Form
Hi, thanks for all the love and support for the popularity poll! (In case you don't know what I'm referring to: https://www.reddit.com/afkarena/comments/13h0io9/unofficial_afk_arena_popularity_poll_2022_results/ )
I'm glad people enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed working on it. I made a feedback form for the popularity poll, so please fill it out if you have the time! I'll apply them to the next one if I decide to do this again. Thanks :)
Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/FR6J2EMktiY9e6b88
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I'm glad people enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed working on it. I made a feedback form for the popularity poll, so please fill it out if you have the time! I'll apply them to the next one if I decide to do this again. Thanks :)
Feedback Form: https://forms.gle/FR6J2EMktiY9e6b88
2023.05.15 12:26 Yaqoob1223 Joining after 3 years
 | So today somehow a post from afkarena came on my reddit. decided to download afkarena again submitted by Yaqoob1223 to afkarena [link] [comments] PS: after 3 years I am completely lost, please need guide https://preview.redd.it/q7c5iese2zza1.jpg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5953d423ecc12625c43228312ee159d715fd587 https://preview.redd.it/yzad8jse2zza1.jpg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5df9ee2d0ddc7265a6f8ae9bf4ccdfadbde1fdee https://preview.redd.it/sic5ihse2zza1.jpg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a387f5ee1359e0faf9a850e198e6121011ff8ab8 |
2023.05.10 17:29 JHawk55 Day 500 F2P
 | Recently I've been finding people complaining that being f2p and playing competitively is impossible. I'm here to show you that it's absolutely not. My account was 500 days old as of this collage, and I've never spent a dime on the game. Hopefully this offers an insight into what an f2p account can do. submitted by JHawk55 to afkarena [link] [comments] When looking at these images, keep a few things in mind. My TG rates are 53.6 cards per copy, meaning well below average (which is closer to 40), and I have enough miscellaneous awakened copies that I could be at 3.5 units built if I'd made better decisions and had slightly better random pulls. Most of what I've accomplished is due to knowledge and information I've learned along the way. Massive shoutouts to RedOrb, Bok, and Bob49 for teaching me so much about the game as well as various members of my guild and Push folks. This game is unforgiving to f2p, but by no means is it impossible to make progress. Keep that in mind, learn the mechanics, research other people's comps, and have fun! https://preview.redd.it/feiepy0dw0za1.jpg?width=3312&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c33c7dfe0b08a6ec8ab6b77ba6b703d2c27ec04b |
2023.05.10 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] General AFKArena Questions & Guide compilation
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the General Questions Megathread of /AFKArena! If you're new to the subreddit, please check out our Welcome Introduction post!If you have a small question that you want answers to or if you're afraid of making a post, this is the thread for you! Just note that before you ask a question, check if it has already been answered in this thread. This is to keep the thread as neat and tidy as possible.
Compilation of the latest AFKArena guide
Useful Links to get you started
Just started the game and feeling overwhelmed?Looking for META Team formations?
Stuck and need help clearing a particular stage?
Unsure of which hero you should be pushing their Signature Item(SI) to 30?
If you can't find a solution to your question(s) try looking here: Complied guides (Afkarena's wiki)
or looking for other Community-made tools?
Our Community trusted Guide-makers
u/Whitesushiiu/datguywind ; AFK.guide
u/Leanker ; Youtube
u/AFKArty ; Discord: Arty#9980
u/GranCarter
u/GnaXi ; Afkhelper
If you have any suggestions/feedback for this thread or other threads like this, feel free to PM me.
Thank you!
Link to previous Question threads
2023.05.10 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] Guild Advertising/Searching
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the Official Guild Advertising/Searching Megathread of /AFKArena!All Guild Advertising/Searching posts will be contained inside this Megathread!
What is this Thread for?
If you are looking for a guild or recruiting a guild member this is the right place! Let's keep this thread clean and nice. Please don't link your discord server here, if your guild has a discord server you can simply invite your new member through private message.This thread will be reposted every week. Look for the newest Guild Megathread by clicking the button on the sidebar of the subreddit.
How I do use this Thread for my Guild's Recruitment?
1. Post a Comment, you can follow this format if you're not sure what to type.- Name of Guild.
- Level of Guild.
- Joining requirements.
- What New Members can expect from your Guild (purpose and goals)..
Recruitment Example :
"xX Best Guild 420 Xx"
- 25hrs/7days a week Active guild
- Have a discord (No posting links)
- Guild level 690
- Recruiting members with 1 trillion+ Arena power only.
- Aiming to be the Numba 1 Guild in the Universe.
- Killed Gouldos in the FIRST DAY of Abyssal Expedition
2023.05.03 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] General AFKArena Questions & Guide compilation
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the General Questions Megathread of /AFKArena! If you're new to the subreddit, please check out our Welcome Introduction post!If you have a small question that you want answers to or if you're afraid of making a post, this is the thread for you! Just note that before you ask a question, check if it has already been answered in this thread. This is to keep the thread as neat and tidy as possible.
Compilation of the latest AFKArena guide
Useful Links to get you started
Just started the game and feeling overwhelmed?Looking for META Team formations?
Stuck and need help clearing a particular stage?
Unsure of which hero you should be pushing their Signature Item(SI) to 30?
If you can't find a solution to your question(s) try looking here: Complied guides (Afkarena's wiki)
or looking for other Community-made tools?
Our Community trusted Guide-makers
u/Whitesushiiu/datguywind ; AFK.guide
u/Leanker ; Youtube
u/AFKArty ; Discord: Arty#9980
u/GranCarter
u/GnaXi ; Afkhelper
If you have any suggestions/feedback for this thread or other threads like this, feel free to PM me.
Thank you!
Link to previous Question threads
2023.05.03 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] Guild Advertising/Searching
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the Official Guild Advertising/Searching Megathread of /AFKArena!All Guild Advertising/Searching posts will be contained inside this Megathread!
What is this Thread for?
If you are looking for a guild or recruiting a guild member this is the right place! Let's keep this thread clean and nice. Please don't link your discord server here, if your guild has a discord server you can simply invite your new member through private message.This thread will be reposted every week. Look for the newest Guild Megathread by clicking the button on the sidebar of the subreddit.
How I do use this Thread for my Guild's Recruitment?
1. Post a Comment, you can follow this format if you're not sure what to type.- Name of Guild.
- Level of Guild.
- Joining requirements.
- What New Members can expect from your Guild (purpose and goals)..
Recruitment Example :
"xX Best Guild 420 Xx"
- 25hrs/7days a week Active guild
- Have a discord (No posting links)
- Guild level 690
- Recruiting members with 1 trillion+ Arena power only.
- Aiming to be the Numba 1 Guild in the Universe.
- Killed Gouldos in the FIRST DAY of Abyssal Expedition
2023.05.02 02:00 Kaleii [Megathread] Lucky Pulls - Hall of Fame
Greetings Adventurers!
As per Rule 4, we do not allow the posting of Tavern, Stargazer and Furniture Pulls on /afkarena. As such, all posts relating to them will be removed and complied here instead.This thread can always be found on the sidebar under useful links!
Show off your sick pulls by posting them in this Hall-of-Fame thread!
Thank you!
Link to previous Pull Megathreads
2023.04.29 22:58 LordBob49 F180 Rift Clear, 2 Awakened Only
 | Hello there, Bob again. submitted by LordBob49 to afkarena [link] [comments] This. Was. Fucking. Hard. F161 to F180 are much much harder than previous floors. Don't run my teams if you have more Awks. You'd have to be down horrendous to need these - I'm an old F2P with horrible Awakened luck. This is not tagged as a guide since I don't expect anyone else to actually use these. Seriously, just wait for Trait 35 to unlock later this week; you'll have a much easier time of it. I highly doubt you'll find any cheaper comps to clear F180 given I actually failed with these teams and needed a second run, but if you do, feel free to post them below. SEALS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Feel free to ask about any of my equipped seals. If you want some general pushing advice for Rift, refer to my previous post: https://www.reddit.com/afkarena/comments/12usqwt/a_guide_to_new_rift/ Proof of F180 Clear My Teams Badge A + Seals Badge B + Seals Badge C + Seals Badge D + Seals Beacons Beacons Details:8 rewinds on the successful run, 18 rewinds on the failed run.I'm saving red juice since Trait 35 unlocks later this week and I didn't actually expect to beat F180 today - otherwise I'd have put 1 point in Lightning Duel for sure. A - Meteor Cloud, lvl 12 Lion. B - Boulder Armor, lvl 9 Talis. C - Meteoric Rise, lvl 9 Owl. D - Axe of Fury, lvl 9 Rock. Solve D first, then B/C, A beats everything. For F180, ADCB, resp. D - Anasta cannot be cc'd at battle start (ie enemy Est or Hend) or you lose the team DR. Avoid enemy Silas. Overall lacks healing and has survival issues. (h/t Pogo and Karna for inspiring this team) C - Can handle most summoners as well as Athalia. Also your secondary Zol/Tasi/Thali counter. Avoid enemy Solise. B - Struggles against summoners, Zol, Tasi, Kelthur. Often has timeout issues. Your secondary Satrana counter, also secondary Raven boss counter since ABel is often wasted on Raven. A - Can handle anything. May struggle against Isa + Desi teams, but is still your best counter against such enemies. Best anti-Tasi pick. Fuck Satrana. Avoid 3 Tasi portals. Seriously, wait for Trait 35. Good luck! o7 |
2023.04.27 22:35 JHawk55 An F2P Guide to Getting Whale Rift Comps
This guide is an addendum to Bob's guide, found here. I will simply be providing a few very useful nuggets of information that can make any Rift strat more f2p friendly, given that you're willing to put in the time.
DO NOT come back complaining that your rng wasn't good. I can't do anything about it and that's a risk you have to accept if you want to try this.
DO NOT complain about this being painful. You want whale comps? Either whale or grind.
Make sure to have your 5 most invested units as your 5 highest combat rating units. green1162 provided a great explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/afkarena/comments/1315spy/comment/ji1e3j5/.
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The Warnings
DO NOT CLEAR FLOOR 100 if you want to make the most of my strategy. If you have cleared it that's okay, just don't defeat the next boss you have access to. Currently you’re limited to the 5 most recent checkpoints for re-entry, so as soon as you unlock the 6th (101), you lose the first (1).DO NOT come back complaining that your rng wasn't good. I can't do anything about it and that's a risk you have to accept if you want to try this.
DO NOT complain about this being painful. You want whale comps? Either whale or grind.
Make sure to have your 5 most invested units as your 5 highest combat rating units. green1162 provided a great explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/afkarena/comments/1315spy/comment/ji1e3j5/.
The Benefits
Quite simply put, if you have 3-4 units built for any given comp and are missing a key unit, this strat heavily improves your ability to just run expensive comps by getting units from Beckoning rooms. Personally I used this strat to acquire AwSolise, Cruke, and Vei in the same run.The Beacons
ALWAYS max the stat beacon and hold onto essence to be able to max it when you get enough armillary levels for the cap to increase. If you have leftover essence, 1 level in a faction beacon is okay if you have multiple carries that benefit from it, otherwise that's not really worth it. Of the room beacons, Lightning Duel is the only one that virtually guarantees some benefit. 1 level is probably as much as you want to do here.The Strat
Exit. If you hit floor 99 and you aren't convinced you can run 4-5 teams with the beckoning units you have, just exit. Re-enter at floor 1 and speedrun up to 99 again. ALWAYS take beckoning rooms, and whenever possible, take any of the time/survival trial rooms. You'll want the seal resets for later on, might as well stock up now while your stat beacon can carry you easily. Personally I'm re-entering until I have enough units I feel confident in 5 comps, but my account is 18 months old and I have enough units to field 3-4 comps on my own.The Targets
High-value units include- all awakend except Ezizh
- any top-tier supports like Silas, Astar, Nevanthi, Merlin, Haelus, Tarnos, and Palmer
- any dps carries like Oden, Scarlet, Anasta, Olgath, Rem, and Mulan
- any shield/grouping units like Chimera, Frampton, and Tamrus
- any tanks like Mishka, Anasta, Sonja, and Edwin
- any other special/key units like Zol, Alna, and Talene.
The Examples
My three favorite runs so far have been where I picked up a carry and 1-2 key units. Run 3: AwBelinda and Edwin Run 7: AwSolise, Vei, and Cruke Run 13 (current run): Vyloris, Framton, and Zol.The Feedback
Don't come complaining that you aren't getting good enough units. I don't control RNG, I don't control your choices, and this is an inherently risky strategy. Get lucky or get good.2023.04.26 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] General AFKArena Questions & Guide compilation
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the General Questions Megathread of /AFKArena! If you're new to the subreddit, please check out our Welcome Introduction post!If you have a small question that you want answers to or if you're afraid of making a post, this is the thread for you! Just note that before you ask a question, check if it has already been answered in this thread. This is to keep the thread as neat and tidy as possible.
Compilation of the latest AFKArena guide
Useful Links to get you started
Just started the game and feeling overwhelmed?Looking for META Team formations?
Stuck and need help clearing a particular stage?
Unsure of which hero you should be pushing their Signature Item(SI) to 30?
If you can't find a solution to your question(s) try looking here: Complied guides (Afkarena's wiki)
or looking for other Community-made tools?
Our Community trusted Guide-makers
u/Whitesushiiu/datguywind ; AFK.guide
u/Leanker ; Youtube
u/AFKArty ; Discord: Arty#9980
u/GranCarter
u/GnaXi ; Afkhelper
If you have any suggestions/feedback for this thread or other threads like this, feel free to PM me.
Thank you!
Link to previous Question threads
2023.04.26 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] Guild Advertising/Searching
Greetings Adventurers!
Welcome to the Official Guild Advertising/Searching Megathread of /AFKArena!All Guild Advertising/Searching posts will be contained inside this Megathread!
What is this Thread for?
If you are looking for a guild or recruiting a guild member this is the right place! Let's keep this thread clean and nice. Please don't link your discord server here, if your guild has a discord server you can simply invite your new member through private message.This thread will be reposted every week. Look for the newest Guild Megathread by clicking the button on the sidebar of the subreddit.
How I do use this Thread for my Guild's Recruitment?
1. Post a Comment, you can follow this format if you're not sure what to type.- Name of Guild.
- Level of Guild.
- Joining requirements.
- What New Members can expect from your Guild (purpose and goals)..
Recruitment Example :
"xX Best Guild 420 Xx"
- 25hrs/7days a week Active guild
- Have a discord (No posting links)
- Guild level 690
- Recruiting members with 1 trillion+ Arena power only.
- Aiming to be the Numba 1 Guild in the Universe.
- Killed Gouldos in the FIRST DAY of Abyssal Expedition
2023.04.26 08:04 JQ4386123 Specialized Investment Theory (2023 Update)
By: JD
Special thanks to the wonderful people on AFK Arena Official Discord for your support!
(Consider joining us if you are not yet a part of our community)
Discord: JDCOOL#0173
TL:DR
Why do I say this? Well, when calculating the value of an investment, one needs to take into account the input and the estimated payback period of their investment. In the context of competitive game modes, for every investment a player makes for that particular game mode (whether it be gazing a hero, cramming a few levels of RC, or getting that e60 on Astar) they need to consider what the marginal benefit (increase in resource acquisition) of that investment really is. Then, they have to weigh it against the relative diamond cost of that investment and determine how long it will take for the benefit to pay for itself. E.g. if you spent ~300k diamonds gazing a Veithael, and then another ~200k worth of resources getting him 309E60, you have to consider how long it will take for his marginal impact on your CTS/NC to pay back the 500k diamonds worth of resources it took to get him.
As you would probably expect, the marginal benefit of investments into a particular game mode decreases, and the cost of investments increases the more you invest. This in turn causes the payback date to be delayed further the more you invest, eventually reaching a point where the investment never pays for itself. What I mean by this is although the investment does provide some arbitrary value, it either matters so little (due to meta shifts) that there is no increase of reward brackets because of that investment (e.g. my e60 Athalia), or worse the investment got power crept out of meta, providing 0 additional value to your comp (e.g. Vyloris, Zaphrael, Morael). Further, as players continue to make investments in the game modes, the marginal benefit of any particular investment will become diluted, thus decreasing its marginal value. So whilst it might be tempting to get that extra ATK node or that new celepogean needed to increase your CR score by 2 billion, you might want to take a step back and carefully evaluate the investment before making the decision. This is also true the further up you climb the ranks (higher rank = more costly & low value it is to maintain).
Now what you might not expect is how early this point of negative returns on investment is for these game modes. The negative returns breakpoint is not when you are building hyper niche celepogeans (e.g. olgath), it is way earlier. I would argue that there is probably no celepogean you can build after your first ~4-5 celepos that gives a positive return in the long run if you weigh its marginal benefit against its cost. (This is just some arbitrary value, I do not have sufficient data on modern early game to give a reliable estimate, so don’t quote me on this lol). In fact, I would argue that any investment into any game mode past ~end-of-MV-unlock stage of progression in the game results in a negative return in the long run (again, very arbitrary and subject to change in light of new game features). Investments that are beneficial to multiple game modes do counteract this effect a lot, but their total marginal benefit across all game modes remains very finite, and can easily sum to a net negative. Now it is true that you are building your roster through these investments, so it’s not fair to say that you dumped the resources down the drain, but if a particular investment you made is for a game mode that you don’t particularly enjoy or care about, is it really worth it? (*Note that I count enjoying simply expanding your roster, like watching your overall power go up, as a valid game mode).
Here is a good way to test whether you actually enjoy a game mode or not. Suppose in the next patch Lilith completely removed the rewards from the game mode, or alternatively they gave the game mode the TRift treatment (everyone gets max rewards, but the ranking plates, frames etc. are still there), would you still invest in the game mode? If the answer is no, then what you enjoy is the rewards the game mode gives, not the game mode itself. Taking into account what was discussed above, you are potentially voluntarily ripping yourself off without realizing it, blinded by the shiny weekly rewards the game mode gives. The only reason why this is super evident in gameplay is because the amount of rewards that Lilith gives out to players via all sources of income is so incredible that players can afford to do suboptimal investments without terminating their progression.
The nice thing about investing into Campaign (past MV reward unlocks) is that because the rewards are so trivial, players choosing to make that investment are not blinded by them to overlook the cost. They know exactly what kind of terrible return on investment they are getting from it, but willingly choose to invest anyway because they enjoy the game mode. This is also true for AE, as everyone that is past ch20 can easily get maxed rewards without AE-specific investment (although I guess you do get a pretty cool frame and flexing rights, those don’t progress your account). The same kind of mentality should be applied to all other game modes. If CR rewards were made to be no longer based on ranking the very next patch, do you still want to E65 your Talene? If TS rewards were made to be no longer based on ranking, would you still want to E85 your ABrutus? If NC rewards were made to be no longer based on ranking, would you still want to ascend your ATalene?
If you actually wanted to play optimally (maximize acquisition of resources), the most optimal way to do so is literally just to hoard forever. There is no investment you can make (past ~finishing MV) that will give you more diamonds, bait, reds, cores, or any other resource than simply not spending them. If this game was a “F2P race to the first player with 100k cores”, the player that just hoards their cores will win every time. Further, unlike finance in real life, the effective purchasing power (how much you can increase your roster’s overall strength) per diamond value of resources will only increase, as AFK Arena does not escape the inevitable element of power creep present in all gacha games. You are essentially gaining ‘interest’ on the resources you accrued overtime with no repercussions (except for a worse-looking roster I guess). You won’t be able to build as many heroes as someone who spends everything instantly, but in terms of overall account strength (including those locked up in your massive resource reserves), you’d technically be ahead. Just compare what something like $5000 USD can buy in the modern game when spent optimally to what $5000 used to be able to buy in 2020. By hoarding all your resources to spend at a later date, you are actually doing something very similar.
Hope you found this helpful!
P.S.: I am aware that many of the ideas I raised are pretty controversial, and a lot of you will disagree. As always, I’m open to discussions about any ideas, so long as it is done in a respectful and constructive manner. Feel free to comment below, or find me in the official AFK Arena Discord server. Just ping me @ JDCOOL#0173 (preferably ping over DM to get more opinions on the issue you want to discuss).
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TL:DR
- Investing in competitive game modes is not as optimal as it might seem
- When evaluating any investment, one needs to consider the marginal benefit and cost, then work out the expected time taken for it to pay for itself
- Most competitive mode-specific investments never actually pay themselves back
- In theory, the best way to maximize resource acquisition and overall account power (including reserves in resources) past some point is to hoard all resources infinitely, but obviously, this defies the point of AFK Arena being a game, and thus I certainly do not recommend doing this.
- You should only invest in game modes (or features) you actually enjoy instead of those which seemingly give the best rewards because those rewards most likely will not make up for the investment you put in.
Introduction
Hello guys, I’m back with some thoughts on a new, perhaps weird, definitely controversial perspective on investments in AFK Arena. I have read a lot of posts and comments lately discussing the viability of RC Cramming in 2023, and want to share some of my thoughts on the issue. For the purposes of this guide, I will only be looking at the PvE benefits of cramming (though, as u/CxEnsign, u/EjnarH and many others have brought up, it also has a lot of collateral benefits in Tower and martial game modes). A lot has changed since my last ‘Specialized Investment Theory’ guide, and a lot of points I raised have become inaccurate or obsolete, so I decided to make an update on it, as well as add some new ideas into the mix. Without further adieu, let’s head into it!Explanation
A popular notion in the AFK Arena community is that the optimal way of maximizing overall account progression is to invest in game modes that give rewards based on ranking, regardless of whether the player is interested in the game mode or not. Whilst this idea is not necessarily 'incorrect', the reality is actually more complex (and grim) than that. Even though max investing in competitive game modes with great rewards like CR, NC, TS etc. seems to be the "optimal" investment route, that might not actually be the case if you take into account the resources you invested to obtain said benefits.Why do I say this? Well, when calculating the value of an investment, one needs to take into account the input and the estimated payback period of their investment. In the context of competitive game modes, for every investment a player makes for that particular game mode (whether it be gazing a hero, cramming a few levels of RC, or getting that e60 on Astar) they need to consider what the marginal benefit (increase in resource acquisition) of that investment really is. Then, they have to weigh it against the relative diamond cost of that investment and determine how long it will take for the benefit to pay for itself. E.g. if you spent ~300k diamonds gazing a Veithael, and then another ~200k worth of resources getting him 309E60, you have to consider how long it will take for his marginal impact on your CTS/NC to pay back the 500k diamonds worth of resources it took to get him.
As you would probably expect, the marginal benefit of investments into a particular game mode decreases, and the cost of investments increases the more you invest. This in turn causes the payback date to be delayed further the more you invest, eventually reaching a point where the investment never pays for itself. What I mean by this is although the investment does provide some arbitrary value, it either matters so little (due to meta shifts) that there is no increase of reward brackets because of that investment (e.g. my e60 Athalia), or worse the investment got power crept out of meta, providing 0 additional value to your comp (e.g. Vyloris, Zaphrael, Morael). Further, as players continue to make investments in the game modes, the marginal benefit of any particular investment will become diluted, thus decreasing its marginal value. So whilst it might be tempting to get that extra ATK node or that new celepogean needed to increase your CR score by 2 billion, you might want to take a step back and carefully evaluate the investment before making the decision. This is also true the further up you climb the ranks (higher rank = more costly & low value it is to maintain).
Now what you might not expect is how early this point of negative returns on investment is for these game modes. The negative returns breakpoint is not when you are building hyper niche celepogeans (e.g. olgath), it is way earlier. I would argue that there is probably no celepogean you can build after your first ~4-5 celepos that gives a positive return in the long run if you weigh its marginal benefit against its cost. (This is just some arbitrary value, I do not have sufficient data on modern early game to give a reliable estimate, so don’t quote me on this lol). In fact, I would argue that any investment into any game mode past ~end-of-MV-unlock stage of progression in the game results in a negative return in the long run (again, very arbitrary and subject to change in light of new game features). Investments that are beneficial to multiple game modes do counteract this effect a lot, but their total marginal benefit across all game modes remains very finite, and can easily sum to a net negative. Now it is true that you are building your roster through these investments, so it’s not fair to say that you dumped the resources down the drain, but if a particular investment you made is for a game mode that you don’t particularly enjoy or care about, is it really worth it? (*Note that I count enjoying simply expanding your roster, like watching your overall power go up, as a valid game mode).
Here is a good way to test whether you actually enjoy a game mode or not. Suppose in the next patch Lilith completely removed the rewards from the game mode, or alternatively they gave the game mode the TRift treatment (everyone gets max rewards, but the ranking plates, frames etc. are still there), would you still invest in the game mode? If the answer is no, then what you enjoy is the rewards the game mode gives, not the game mode itself. Taking into account what was discussed above, you are potentially voluntarily ripping yourself off without realizing it, blinded by the shiny weekly rewards the game mode gives. The only reason why this is super evident in gameplay is because the amount of rewards that Lilith gives out to players via all sources of income is so incredible that players can afford to do suboptimal investments without terminating their progression.
The nice thing about investing into Campaign (past MV reward unlocks) is that because the rewards are so trivial, players choosing to make that investment are not blinded by them to overlook the cost. They know exactly what kind of terrible return on investment they are getting from it, but willingly choose to invest anyway because they enjoy the game mode. This is also true for AE, as everyone that is past ch20 can easily get maxed rewards without AE-specific investment (although I guess you do get a pretty cool frame and flexing rights, those don’t progress your account). The same kind of mentality should be applied to all other game modes. If CR rewards were made to be no longer based on ranking the very next patch, do you still want to E65 your Talene? If TS rewards were made to be no longer based on ranking, would you still want to E85 your ABrutus? If NC rewards were made to be no longer based on ranking, would you still want to ascend your ATalene?
If you actually wanted to play optimally (maximize acquisition of resources), the most optimal way to do so is literally just to hoard forever. There is no investment you can make (past ~finishing MV) that will give you more diamonds, bait, reds, cores, or any other resource than simply not spending them. If this game was a “F2P race to the first player with 100k cores”, the player that just hoards their cores will win every time. Further, unlike finance in real life, the effective purchasing power (how much you can increase your roster’s overall strength) per diamond value of resources will only increase, as AFK Arena does not escape the inevitable element of power creep present in all gacha games. You are essentially gaining ‘interest’ on the resources you accrued overtime with no repercussions (except for a worse-looking roster I guess). You won’t be able to build as many heroes as someone who spends everything instantly, but in terms of overall account strength (including those locked up in your massive resource reserves), you’d technically be ahead. Just compare what something like $5000 USD can buy in the modern game when spent optimally to what $5000 used to be able to buy in 2020. By hoarding all your resources to spend at a later date, you are actually doing something very similar.
Conclusion
So what does all of this mean? Should you just sit on all your resources forever? Certainly not! AFK Arena is a game after all, and you should not be playing it if you only wanted to maximize your total unreserved account power. As such, investing in a game mode that you enjoy, despite knowing that you are getting ripped off, is actually well worth it. Why do I still RC cram to this day despite being well aware that RC is useless in most competitive game modes? Because I enjoy advancing in Campaign and seeing my overall power increase, that’s well worth it for me. If you find competing with your guildmates in AE to be the most rewarding aspect of the game, invest in it, it’s well worth it. If you like seeing big damage numbers in CR, high win rates in TS, or high % ranking in basically all competitive game modes, it is also well worth it for you to invest in those game modes. However, if you don’t care about actually doing well in any game mode(s), and only do it for the rewards you get from there, I would encourage you to think again about what you are actually doing with your resources.Clarification*
It seems that the conclusion has appeared to some as "just build whatever hero you like, don't need to build meta or be competitive", which is not what I intended. I want to clarify that I am referring to building heroes for the game modes of your choice, and optimizing your roster to fit your chosen game mode(s) of focus (what I discussed in my original guide). I am in no way suggesting that meta should be thrown out the window, but that laser-focusing on TS, CR, NC investments is not as optimal as it might seem,Hope you found this helpful!
P.S.: I am aware that many of the ideas I raised are pretty controversial, and a lot of you will disagree. As always, I’m open to discussions about any ideas, so long as it is done in a respectful and constructive manner. Feel free to comment below, or find me in the official AFK Arena Discord server. Just ping me @ JDCOOL#0173 (preferably ping over DM to get more opinions on the issue you want to discuss).
2023.04.23 20:37 EjnarH Don't sleep on RC cramming (boosting resonance crystal level)
In a useful guide on what to spend diamond's on, there were some comments asking why people would still RC cram (prioritizing hero essence for the resonance crystal level). This used to be the single strongest form of progression, but nowadays many modes use martial levels or are level locked entirely.
RC cramming in 2023 is no longer a no-brainer, but I think people are overlooking many of the rewards:
Here's a rough overview I made that might have a few inaccuracies and could have overlooked some of the reward quests. A level up costs about 11k diamonds worth of dust and gives about 6k diamonds worth of limited-availability resources.
It's not a no-brainer to RC cram, but if you value your performance in martial level modes such as AE (which can be a huge factor in finding a good guild) where martial level is of huge impact, or if you want to turn diamonds into less available resources like time emblems, cores and baits, then RC cramming might not be nearly as costly as it appears.
It will also be very individual for accounts (and spending level / account age) how effectively you progress compared to your level, and whether you're most lacking diamonds or the other resource types.
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RC cramming in 2023 is no longer a no-brainer, but I think people are overlooking many of the rewards:
- Every 20 levels of faction towers gives 30 TEs, 30 SGs, 120 red chests/emblems, 400 cores, 6000 PoE and 17M gold. Progress rate is about 1.5 floors per RC level.
- Every 50 floors of King's King's tower gives like 500 cores, 7500 dust, 6800 diamonds, 150 elite stones, 600 rare stones and an obscene amount of gold. Progress rate is about 1.5 floors per RC level.
- Each campaign chapter gives SGs, baits, T4 stones, cores and other stuff.
- Every time a new progress system is released (e.g. baits or awakened heroes), it gives a large surge of retroactive income based on how far you've made it.
Here's a rough overview I made that might have a few inaccuracies and could have overlooked some of the reward quests. A level up costs about 11k diamonds worth of dust and gives about 6k diamonds worth of limited-availability resources.
It's not a no-brainer to RC cram, but if you value your performance in martial level modes such as AE (which can be a huge factor in finding a good guild) where martial level is of huge impact, or if you want to turn diamonds into less available resources like time emblems, cores and baits, then RC cramming might not be nearly as costly as it appears.
It will also be very individual for accounts (and spending level / account age) how effectively you progress compared to your level, and whether you're most lacking diamonds or the other resource types.
2023.04.22 05:11 LordBob49 A Guide to New Rift
 | Hello there, Bob again. Rift has gotten a massive overhaul and the changes can be confusing, so here's a quick guide. (If you're looking for reward changes, other people have covered that in-depth). The first part of this guide will explain the changes as well as some general pushing advice, and the end will be my relatively cheap comps to clear F140 with only 2 awakened (I'm f2p). submitted by LordBob49 to afkarena [link] [comments] Carries:Most Awks are good to great. If you're f2poor, consider Mulan/ScaOden. Ainz and Talene cycle performed poorly for me, tho I have seen a few ppl succeed with them. I recc ABrutus + ABel Alna as first two teams. Anecdotally, AThane can struggle after F80. Also anecdotally, my ABrutus comp is better than ABrutus dims.Badges and Divine Seals:- One Badge per Team. Unclear what Badge upgrades do, but they give 0 HP/Atk.- Better Badges unlock as you progress through floors, but you can only choose badges at the start of a run, or when enemy teams increase. Boulder Armor is great for shield comps, Axe of Fury is great on all teams (stick on whatever team needs most help), and Ring of Dominion favors summoners. The rest are forgettable imo. - Each Badge can have 3 Seals equipped - 1 hexagon, 1 circle, 1 diamond. The right Seal will make or break your comp. My faves, roughly in descending order (read the parentheses notes):
- Seal tiers operate on a color basis (Gold>Purple>Blue>Green. Gold has best effects). All seals are cleared after defeating Raven boss. Seals give 0 HP/Atk. - Some Seals are Badge-specific. - Battle floors give Badge upgrade OR Seal (select left or right). Floors:- For battle floors, select the timed/deathless challenge floors (Realm of Strife/Survival) if you can handle them. You can stock up on Seal resets and use them a few floors before particularly difficult stages to make sure you have the right Seal for the job. For example, F70 F100 and F140 are anecdotally very difficult, so use the seal resets you've gathered before reaching those stages if you've gotten bad Seal luck. Seal resets are kept until you exit a run.
- Raven boss every 20 floors (20/40/60...). Beat Raven for 650 red juice for beacon upgrades. - Gladiator every 20 floors (10/30/50...) but can sometimes bypass it if Blessed Realm (Twins) change your next floor. (F70 Rigby can be quite difficult, use ABel, ABrutus, and/or total healblock). - Exiting a run restarts at most recent cleared floor now (Patch 1.115). - Blessed Realm can change your next floor (your choice), prevent you from losing stability on next floor, or buff a faction/class for a few floors. - Beckoning Place is still a free merc, lost after exiting a run. - Vexing is now a free floor. Can trade Stability for a badge/seal upgrade (also get cursed with Blind debuff), or decline it and move on. - Flora's Dew is best floor - regain Stability (250-349 ish?) Stability and Combat:- Stability is needed to start a fight. Enter a run with 1000; your run ends at 0. Stability is lost due to long fights and/or ending fights missing HP (including deaths).- One death costs 30 stability by default (h/t Joux, Vonte). Full timeout adds an additional -60. See the table for my testing results (some might be 2 stability points off).
- Your side always starts at 0 nrg and full HP. - If you lost, enemies will be left at whatever HP/nrg they had when you lost - since you always start at 0 nrg, this can get messy, particularly with enemy Oden. Dead enemies do not return. - 7 Entries/week (can buy more), 30 rewinds/week. Rewinds best used if heavy stability loss. Beacons:- Trait Enhancer increases linearly. This is the only source of stats in Rift that I know of, so max this whenever possible. However, linear scaling means this gives diminishing returns. If Trait Enhancer keeps growing like this (y=2x+5), it will be impossible for F2P to cap it, so eventually we may be better off upgrading Lightning Duel instead.
- Of the "Room" beacons, Lightning Duel is probably the best value, though I didn't need any of them thus far. F2P can't afford more than one level in Room beacons while still maxing Trait Enhancer. (I still don't know how much -HP% translates to -stability, but it's not linear. Seems -40% HP costs 4 stability and -99% HP costs 24.)
Other:- weekly rift reset is now the day before weekly quest reset- Armillary increases one level every 1.4d (+240/d from Fountain) - some CC works (Scar sometimes, Diamond: Booby Trap) My Comps:My F2P comps- L12 Lion, L6 Talis/Owl, comps of my own creation (not that ABel is particularly creative). - I cannot emphasize enough how important reading/choosing the right Seals is. - These are probably not the best comps, but I'm just sharing stuff that worked for me, and I haven't seen anyone else beat F140 with only 2 awakened or less. If you have, feel free to share. If you haven't, feel free to shut up bc this comment section sucks enough as is. - I would use Badge: Axe of Fury but that didn't unlock unless I reset. - A beats everything, best against Tasi. Badge: Meteor Cloud.
- Oden and Haelus like to die for no reason. Such is Rift... - If you want to see my F180 teams (still 2 awks), see: https://www.reddit.com/afkarena/comments/1336j24/f180_rift_clear_2_awakened_only/ Hope this helps and good luck! o7 |
2023.04.19 15:30 Kaleii [Megathread] General AFKArena Questions & Guide compilation
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